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Compilation of found skill bugs after the Rebellion update:

 

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Dragon Breath Water affected by racial and element modifiers. Following renewal mechanics.

Normal Dragon Breath retained pre-renewal mechanics for balancing.

attachicon.gif screenMyRO Full Renewal10248.jpg

attachicon.gif screenMyRO Full Renewal10250.jpg

attachicon.gif screenMyRO Full Renewal10254.jpg

 

2. King's Grace (New skill of Royal Guard) doesn't seem to be working.

 

3. Frigg's Song's (New skill of Minstrel/Wanderer) duration only lasts 15 seconds, instead of 60.

 

4. Intensification (New skill of Warlock) lasts three minutes instead of one.

 

Skill Balancing Suggestions:

 

1. Increase the cooldown of No Limit (New skill of Ranger) to ten minutes, instead of five. Main reason for this is when Rangers are used in war events, what happens is that the team requests for a "disconnection call" so that the skill will finish is cooldown. In my opinion, sobrang duga naman po 'nung ganun. Papa-DC just to wait for the cooldown of the skill. Nakakaubos po 'yung Arrow Storm kapag naka-No Limit buff 'yung user.

 

2. Increase the cooldown of Intensification (New skill of Warlock) to ten minutes instead of five. Same reason for the No Limit skill. Super spam ang Soul Expansion ng Warlock; it doesn't have any fixed cast time, the cast delay is only half a second, so maski walang Minstrel to cast Poem of Bragi, the skill may still be spammed. Also take note, this cannot be removed by Dispel or Clearance.

 

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Other found bugs and balancing suggestions, feel free to add them here in this thread. Thank you!

 


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bakit ung no limit kailangan pataasin ung cooldown dahil sa event related issues.. pano naman pag walang event?? parang naeexploit ung dc call.. d na kasalanan ng skill yan.


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Compilation of found skill bugs after the Rebellion update:


1.

Dragon Breath Water affected by racial and element modifiers. Following renewal mechanics.
Normal Dragon Breath retained pre-renewal mechanics for balancing.
attachicon.gifscreenMyRO Full Renewal10248.jpg
attachicon.gifscreenMyRO Full Renewal10250.jpg
attachicon.gifscreenMyRO Full Renewal10254.jpg


2. King's Grace (New skill of Royal Guard) doesn't seem to be working.

3. Frigg's Song's (New skill of Minstrel/Wanderer) duration only lasts 15 seconds, instead of 60.

4. Intensification (New skill of Warlock) lasts three minutes instead of one.

Skill Balancing Suggestions:


1. Increase the cooldown of No Limit (New skill of Ranger) to ten minutes, instead of five. Main reason for this is when Rangers are used in war events, what happens is that the team requests for a "disconnection call" so that the skill will finish is cooldown. In my opinion, sobrang duga naman po 'nung ganun. Papa-DC just to wait for the cooldown of the skill. Nakakaubos po 'yung Arrow Storm kapag naka-No Limit buff 'yung user.

2. Increase the cooldown of Intensification (New skill of Warlock) to ten minutes instead of five. Same reason for the No Limit skill. Super spam ang Soul Expansion ng Warlock; it doesn't have any fixed cast time, the cast delay is only half a second, so maski walang Minstrel to cast Poem of Bragi, the skill may still be spammed. Also take note, this cannot be removed by Dispel or Clearance.

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Other found bugs and balancing suggestions, feel free to add them here in this thread. Thank you!

Okay lahat, medyo nagaalangan lang din ako sa skill duration ng pang WL and Ranger haha


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what if , instead ung cooldown ung i adjust ung skill effect ? parang masyadong OP yung 250 % lalo sa ranger .



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what if , instead ung cooldown ung i adjust ung skill effect ? parang masyadong OP yung 250 % lalo sa ranger .

Pwede rin. +100% instead of 250?



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ok na din ung i adjust ung % damage.. pero paki ayos na din ung camouflage skill ng ranger. bug d gumagana ng maayos ung skill.



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Minsan lang lumakas ang ranger pahihinain nyo pa. Fyi mahina ang ranger na below +18 ang weapon. Also, yung No Limit matagal na ang 5 mins cooldown at sobrang bilis lang mawala yan. Tumakbo ka lang ng konti or magcloak ka lang hanggang mawala na ang No Limit buff wala na sayong magagawa yung ranger mag-aantay na naman sila ng another 5 mins. Atsaka ang ranger sobra lambot nyan. Saglit lang sila sa jackfrost, stormblast, cold slower, goh, triangle shot, rolling cutter, etc. Marami rin pangontra sa ranger tulad ng Siege set, pneuma, defender, ninja, lightning walk, neutral barrier, dispell, etc.

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Minsan lang lumakas ang ranger pahihinain nyo pa. Fyi mahina ang ranger na below +18 ang weapon. Also, yung No Limit matagal na ang 5 mins cooldown at sobrang bilis lang mawala yan. Tumakbo ka lang ng konti or magcloak ka lang hanggang mawala na ang No Limit buff wala na sayong magagawa yung ranger mag-aantay na naman sila ng another 5 mins. Atsaka ang ranger sobra lambot nyan. Saglit lang sila sa jackfrost, stormblast, cold slower, goh, triangle shot, rolling cutter, etc. Marami rin pangontra sa ranger tulad ng Siege set, pneuma, defender, ninja, lightning walk, neutral barrier, dispell, etc.

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naka srs na ako alligator cards sa acce 60k pa din AS / hit , balanced pa ba yan ? 

yung cooldown ok ako sa 5mins and ok lang din kahit mag pa dc sa war dati pa naman ginagawa yon para sa sd ng mecha ! 

i balance lang ung damage ok na yun .



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Minsan lang lumakas ang ranger pahihinain nyo pa. Fyi mahina ang ranger na below +18 ang weapon. Also, yung No Limit matagal na ang 5 mins cooldown at sobrang bilis lang mawala yan. Tumakbo ka lang ng konti or magcloak ka lang hanggang mawala na ang No Limit buff wala na sayong magagawa yung ranger mag-aantay na naman sila ng another 5 mins. Atsaka ang ranger sobra lambot nyan. Saglit lang sila sa jackfrost, stormblast, cold slower, goh, triangle shot, rolling cutter, etc. Marami rin pangontra sa ranger tulad ng Siege set, pneuma, defender, ninja, lightning walk, neutral barrier, dispell, etc.

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naka srs na ako alligator cards sa acce 60k pa din AS / hit , balanced pa ba yan ?

yung cooldown ok ako sa 5mins and ok lang din kahit mag pa dc sa war dati pa naman ginagawa yon para sa sd ng mecha !

i balance lang ung damage ok na yun .
Anong job gamit mo? At ilan ang damage sayo kapag walang No Limit?

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sura . umaabot lang 20k pinakamataas na wala unlimit .. sa pvp to

sa sorc di ko pa masyado nakita pero may naka 1hit sakin during woe srs/alligator cards + ecoat haha



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sura . umaabot lang 20k pinakamataas na wala unlimit .. sa pvp to

sa sorc di ko pa masyado nakita pero may naka 1hit sakin during woe srs/alligator cards + ecoat haha

Ok the reason kung bakit ko tinanong kung anong job mo at ilan ang damage sayo kapag walang No Limit ay para sagutin yung tanong mo kung balanced ito :)

Facts:
1. For every 5 mins, Kaya ka makill ng ranger kapag naka No Limit buff siya.

2. Kapag walang No Limit (5mins) ang Ranger malabong makill ang sura mo dahil 20k lang ang maximum AS sayo.

3. Anytime, ang sura mo kaya makill ang ranger. At pwede mag-lightningwalk or pneuma kapag naka No Limit yung Ranger.

Therefore, balanced siya at lamang pa nga un sura mo dahil yung ranger kailangan pa mag-antay ng 5 mins para makill ka ikaw hindi na. :)

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sura . umaabot lang 20k pinakamataas na wala unlimit .. sa pvp to

sa sorc di ko pa masyado nakita pero may naka 1hit sakin during woe srs/alligator cards + ecoat haha

Ok the reason kung bakit ko tinanong kung anong job mo at ilan ang damage sayo kapag walang No Limit ay para sagutin yung tanong mo kung balanced ito :)

Facts:
1. For every 5 mins, Kaya ka makill ng ranger kapag naka No Limit buff siya.

2. Kapag walang No Limit (5mins) ang Ranger malabong makill ang sura mo dahil 20k lang ang maximum AS sayo.

3. Anytime, ang sura mo kaya makill ang ranger. At pwede mag-lightningwalk or pneuma kapag naka No Limit yung Ranger.

Therefore, balanced siya at lamang pa nga un sura mo dahil yung ranger kailangan pa mag-antay ng 5 mins para makill ka ikaw hindi na. :)

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sa akin yon , eh paano sa iba ?  hindi ba OP ung walang kaya sumalo ? kahit pa every 5mins yan kung wala kaya sumalo ng damage imba yan , pano sa GOM and other war events ? 


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sura . umaabot lang 20k pinakamataas na wala unlimit .. sa pvp to

sa sorc di ko pa masyado nakita pero may naka 1hit sakin during woe srs/alligator cards + ecoat haha

Ok the reason kung bakit ko tinanong kung anong job mo at ilan ang damage sayo kapag walang No Limit ay para sagutin yung tanong mo kung balanced ito :)

Facts:
1. For every 5 mins, Kaya ka makill ng ranger kapag naka No Limit buff siya.

2. Kapag walang No Limit (5mins) ang Ranger malabong makill ang sura mo dahil 20k lang ang maximum AS sayo.

3. Anytime, ang sura mo kaya makill ang ranger. At pwede mag-lightningwalk or pneuma kapag naka No Limit yung Ranger.

Therefore, balanced siya at lamang pa nga un sura mo dahil yung ranger kailangan pa mag-antay ng 5 mins para makill ka ikaw hindi na. :)

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sa akin yon , eh paano sa iba ?  hindi ba OP ung walang kaya sumalo ? kahit pa every 5mins yan kung wala kaya sumalo ng damage imba yan , pano sa GOM and other war events ? 

 

 

Tulad ng sa ibang RO servers magiging in-demand ang Mechanics dahil sa skill nila na Neutral Barrier which blocks all range attacks. Pwede rin gumamit ng pneuma :)



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sura . umaabot lang 20k pinakamataas na wala unlimit .. sa pvp to

sa sorc di ko pa masyado nakita pero may naka 1hit sakin during woe srs/alligator cards + ecoat haha

Ok the reason kung bakit ko tinanong kung anong job mo at ilan ang damage sayo kapag walang No Limit ay para sagutin yung tanong mo kung balanced ito :)

Facts:
1. For every 5 mins, Kaya ka makill ng ranger kapag naka No Limit buff siya.

2. Kapag walang No Limit (5mins) ang Ranger malabong makill ang sura mo dahil 20k lang ang maximum AS sayo.

3. Anytime, ang sura mo kaya makill ang ranger. At pwede mag-lightningwalk or pneuma kapag naka No Limit yung Ranger.

Therefore, balanced siya at lamang pa nga un sura mo dahil yung ranger kailangan pa mag-antay ng 5 mins para makill ka ikaw hindi na. :)

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#2 at 3.. pasong paso sa banga... sura pa yan ha.. what more pag rk pa yan..  



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sura . umaabot lang 20k pinakamataas na wala unlimit .. sa pvp to

sa sorc di ko pa masyado nakita pero may naka 1hit sakin during woe srs/alligator cards + ecoat haha

Ok the reason kung bakit ko tinanong kung anong job mo at ilan ang damage sayo kapag walang No Limit ay para sagutin yung tanong mo kung balanced ito :)

Facts:
1. For every 5 mins, Kaya ka makill ng ranger kapag naka No Limit buff siya.

2. Kapag walang No Limit (5mins) ang Ranger malabong makill ang sura mo dahil 20k lang ang maximum AS sayo.

3. Anytime, ang sura mo kaya makill ang ranger. At pwede mag-lightningwalk or pneuma kapag naka No Limit yung Ranger.

Therefore, balanced siya at lamang pa nga un sura mo dahil yung ranger kailangan pa mag-antay ng 5 mins para makill ka ikaw hindi na. :)

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sa akin yon , eh paano sa iba ?  hindi ba OP ung walang kaya sumalo ? kahit pa every 5mins yan kung wala kaya sumalo ng damage imba yan , pano sa GOM and other war events ? 

 

 

Tulad ng sa ibang RO servers magiging in-demand ang Mechanics dahil sa skill nila na Neutral Barrier which blocks all range attacks. Pwede rin gumamit ng pneuma :)

 

FACTS #2 at 3 

nadale mo.. pasok na pasok.. sura pa yan.. pano pag rk pa yan.. refresh at millenium shield palang.. ubos na 1 min buff na no limit ng ranger.



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Para saan ba ung Elemental Shield ng Sorce? Hindi ba un ang pambalance dyan?


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Alam ko mukhang pneuma lang un elemental shield pero melee attacks lang na block nya as per description ng skill xD



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Alam ko mukhang pneuma lang un elemental shield pero melee attacks lang na block nya as per description ng skill xD

 

Pneuma + safety wall po sya

 

Hindi ba pwedeng gamitin ang elemental shield pag nakitang nag unlimit ung ranger?


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Im reading.

 

Somebody (staff) please summarize what has to be done.







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